Strong Faith in Hard Seasons: Max Lucado on Hearing God in the Middle of Chaos and Exhaustion

Join Shannon Bream as she welcomes back beloved pastor and bestselling author Max Lucado to discuss his powerful new book, Unbreakable: Strong Faith in an Age of Anxiety, Chaos, and Exhaustion. Drawing on the surprisingly relatable story of the prophet Elijah, Max makes the case that bold faith and deep struggle are not opposites — they can coexist in the same person, even in the same week. Elijah called down fire from heaven and not long after collapsed under a tree begging God to take his life. Max uses that raw, human moment to speak directly to the one in three Americans who have battled depression. He unpacks the difference between resting in prayer and wrestling in prayer, explains why isolation is depression’s greatest weapon, and reminds listeners that spiritual muscle, like physical muscle, is only built through resistance. Honest, hopeful, and grounded in Scripture, this conversation is a timely reminder that anxiety is not a sign of weak faith and that God’s response to our darkest moments is not condemnation, but a gentle voice calling us out of the cave.